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Apple eMac Desktop 17

Apple eMac Desktop 17" M9252LL/A (1.0-GHz PowerPC G4, 128 MB RAM, 40 GB Hard Drive, DVD/CD-RW Drive)
Manufacturer: Apple Computer
Product Type: Personal Computer

Editorial Review:
Product Description
Get the power, performance and value you're looking for in an all-in-one desktop computer that's as easy to use as it is to afford. eMac comes loaded with iLife software applications that let you do fun, creative things with your pictures, music and movies in ways that make PC users eat their hearts out. And the eMac also comes with high-speed FireWire and USB ports so you can connect to digital cameras, DV camcorders, external hard disks, graphics tablets, printers and scanners - just plug and play. Need to use your Mac OS 9 software as well? The eMac lets you do that, too, running all your Mac OS 9 applications in Mac OS X Classic mode.
Amazon.com Product Description
As the most affordable products in the entire Apple roster of desktop computers, eMacs are not intended for sophisticated applications where power and versatility are paramount. They are, however, just fine for general day-to-day tasks such as word processing, personal finances, Internet surfing, e-mail and contact management. They're also small enough to fit comfortably on virtually any desk or table, no matter how cluttered it might be. This model, the eMac Desktop 17-inch M9252LL/A, is the entry-level eMac and therefore the most basic desktop Apple manufactures.

Driven by a 1 GHz PowerPC G4 processor and an ATI Radeon 7500 graphics chipset with 32 MB of dedicated DDR SDRAM memory, the eMac Desktop 17-inch M9252LL/A sports satisfactory front-end speed and enough 3-D drawing power to handle midlevel games and 3-D rendering applications. Its 128 MB allotment of RAM memory is considered the bare minimum in today's desktop world and should be upgraded if you intend to multitask or run processor-intensive tasks. Fortunately, the unit will allow up to 1 GB of RAM.

Like all eMacs, the eMac Desktop 17-inch M9252LL/A sports a unique and conveniently space-efficient one-piece design. Inside, Apple has incorporated an adequate 40 GB hard disk, a DVD/CD-RW drive through which you can burn audio CDs and watch your favorite DVD movies, smallish stereo speakers, and a surprisingly generous 17-inch glass-tube CRT (not LCD) display.

Connectivity options include a 56K modem for dial-up communication, a 10/100BASE-T Ethernet chipset for high-speed network and Internet interaction, an expansion slot for wireless networking, two FireWire 400 ports (commonly used for transferring data to and from digital camcorders), and five USB 1.1 ports for external devices such as joysticks and scanners. Potential customers should note that the unit is not equipped with new high-speed USB 2.0 ports. Nor does it support DVD burning. An Apple keyboard and Apple mouse complete the hardware picture.

Bundled software includes Mac OS X, World Book 2003, Quicken 2004 Deluxe, and an impressive range of multimedia utilities and games.

Apple eMac Desktop 17" M9252LL/A (1.0-GHz PowerPC G4, 128 MB RAM, 40 GB Hard Drive, DVD/CD-RW Drive)

Average customer rating:

2nd Best
Easy to use and very capable
Nice Machine, and the Price Is Right
Behind the times
A joy to use - a must for the budget concious switcher

Apple eMac Desktop 17" M9252LL/A (1.0-GHz PowerPC G4, 128 MB RAM, 40 GB Hard Drive, DVD/CD-RW Drive)

Manufacturer: Apple Computer
ProductGroup: Personal Computer
Binding: Personal Computers

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Product Description

Get the power, performance and value you're looking for in an all-in-one desktop computer that's as easy to use as it is to afford. eMac comes loaded with iLife software applications that let you do fun, creative things with your pictures, music and movies in ways that make PC users eat their hearts out. And the eMac also comes with high-speed FireWire and USB ports so you can connect to digital cameras, DV camcorders, external hard disks, graphics tablets, printers and scanners - just plug and play. Need to use your Mac OS 9 software as well? The eMac lets you do that, too, running all your Mac OS 9 applications in Mac OS X Classic mode.

Amazon.com Product Description

As the most affordable products in the entire Apple roster of desktop computers, eMacs are not intended for sophisticated applications where power and versatility are paramount. They are, however, just fine for general day-to-day tasks such as word processing, personal finances, Internet surfing, e-mail and contact management. They're also small enough to fit comfortably on virtually any desk or table, no matter how cluttered it might be. This model, the eMac Desktop 17-inch M9252LL/A, is the entry-level eMac and therefore the most basic desktop Apple manufactures.

Bundled software includes Mac OS X, World Book 2003, Quicken 2004 Deluxe, and an impressive range of multimedia utilities and games.

Customer Reviews:

2nd Best.......2006-11-27

I'm a long time PC user, and I used my PC to make movies. Most of the movies were terrible quality and they froze my computer a LOT. My computer was also only 1 year old! When my friend got an iMac, I was surprised, and I thought he made a mistake. I thought Macs were even worse than PCs. I went to his house and tried it out. Man, I was wrong. OS X Tiger ran like a stallion. I was able access documents in seconds, while on my PC, it takes forever just for the start menu to open at times. He let me try out office 2004 for Mac, and it's even better than for PC (although it lags a little bit). I even tried World of Warcraft, and it ran extremely fast and smooth. My PC can't even run it!

I'm planning on getting an eMac, only because Apple computers is notorious for pricing. A standard iMac is $1500, while this is only $500. It's not as good as the iMac, but it's great for people who prefer the Mac experience to the PC hassle.

Want a good Mac without a good hunk of money? This computer is for you.

Easy to use and very capable.......2004-04-13

I written reviews for these eMacs before and most of what was said is still true. It is a great starter machine for those interested in trying out Apple's computers (and the nearly crashproof/ viris-free OS/X operating system). Don't buy this machine if you expect to upgrade it later. The processor is not swappable. You can expand the memory, add an Airport wireless network card (still the easiest and the standard the other networking companies can only aspire to), and put in a bigger hard drive. That's about it. However, there's not a whole lot you NEED to add.

Apple gives you a speedy G4 processor (don't be fooled by it's low by comparison to Intel MHZ rating), a large hard drive, built in 10/100 ethernet, built in 802.11b/g wireless networking capability, built in modem, built in good (not great but good) graphics card, built in stereo sound with internal front mounted speakers, an excellent 17" CRT monitor, industry standard FireWire/USB ports, a keyboard, and a mouse. Cheaper PCs are just that. You get what you pay for.

Software includes the unbelievably great OS/X operating system, the iLife suite of digital tools (iMovie 4, iDVD 4 (This machine does not have a DVD burner, so while you CREATE DVD projects, you can't do anything with them), iTunes 4, iPhoto 4, and my new favorite GarageBand) that all work together almost like a single software suite, AppleWorks (get MS Office if a discount is available, it's much better than AW), and a couple of games to get you started.

If you're worried about file compatibility with your Windows friends, don't be. With the exception of AutoCad (There are CAD programs that have file compatibility, but they typically are not as full-featured. And besides, you don't buy an eMac for CAD anymore than you would use a cheap Dell for CAD!), there are either the same or equivalent software available for everything except games. If you want to play games, buy a frigging PlayStation! OK, that's the good. Now the bad.

Apple doesn't give you enough memory to really use this machine to its potential. Get another 512 megs. If you get involved with digital video (which takes up LOADS of hard drive space), shop around for an external FireWire drive. If Apple's way of easy digital video is what you're looking for, you may want to pay a little more to get the SuperDrive (DVD burner). You may need an analog to digital converter as well for your older video unless your DV camcorder has a passthrough. The eMac also does not have any USB 2 (USB 1.1 only) ports. So you cannot use USB 2 external devices (They will only run at USB 1.1 speeds). Also, I recommend getting QuickTime Pro (30 bucks) from Apple. I recommend as well Erica Sadun's terrific iMovie book that helps you use iMovie to its fullest. Lastly, Apple has G5 processors that are starting to make their way through their lines (Towers already here, portables within the year, consumer machines probably within 2 years). The eMacs will still be great machines, but will lag behind whatever Apple has coming out soon. Unless you need something right now, you may want to wait until then unless they discount them heavily. They're still worth what you pay now however.

Nice Machine, and the Price Is Right.......2004-04-02

I have setup and worked quite a bit with this Apple product, although this is not my everyday machine. In short, this is a nice computer, and non-geek users will love how easy it is to setup and use for most tasks.

I would especially recommend this computer for novice computer users or those who are simply fed up with the routine torture of working with older Windows machines.

However: I strongly recommend upgrading the amount of RAM and considering the model with CD-RW (in case you're considering purchasing a used eMac.)

Behind the times.......2004-03-23

This system has spec way too low for today's software. Why buy something you will have to replace next year? Step up to something with more memory and a faster cpu (for example you need 128MB *just* to load office!). You will be sorry if you order this system.

A joy to use - a must for the budget concious switcher.......2004-03-07

After coming into a tidy amount of money, I decided that it was time to make the switch. Coming over from a Pentium II 233, that switch was quite a relief. The price of the eMac was what attracted me to it, and i didn't share some people's opinions that it was 'ugly' (especially given that i was used to a beige, yellowing windows tower).

Setup
I put out the order to Apple UK (I'm a Brit, folks) it took around two weeks to arrive. When it came, it arrived at my campus post room and i'm very glad that i had help in carrying it back to my room as it came in a huge box and was very heavy and bulky - a point to note if it's not going to arrive straight to your door. It came very well packaged with a nice new Mac smell to it, everything in its own cosy polystyrene compartment. Again, beacause of the weight, i would suggest getting a friend to help you set things up.
One thing i did notice, unpacking, was the lack of manuals (a very thin OSX manual and ditto the eMac manual, proper). Ignoring the manuals i set it up, heaving the monitor section onto my desk (it is heavy, but very comfortable / ergonomic to lift). Setup is very easy! Glancing at the manual, i was left with a setup that left very few wires dangling around the back. Because of this, i was able to free up a whole 4 - way multi-plug adapter that i had used to plug in my pc's speakers, monitor etc. It is also very usefully has all the USB, Firewire, connectors located at the side.
Once setup, installing the OS X was also very easy, and after filling in my name, basic preferences etc, the system was up and running. This was also when i enjoyed the CD drive - a button on the keyboard ejects and closes the CD draw, and it does so in a very satisfying motion.

Mouse & Keyboard
The keyboard has a great, light and springy action to it, even better than the Microsoft Office keyboard i had been using. The keyboard itself is remarkably compact and makes for a setup that is ideal for users with limited desk space. The mouse plugged into the keyboard is also impressive. The one button, clear plastic mouse is easy and comfortable to use, and you get used to not having a right=click button. However, it must be said that the surface of the mouse is a hot-spot for picking up grime, so you need to wipe it every now and again. The underneath of the mouse picks up grime too, and although it is an optical mouse (wheel-free) it can get a bit scratchy, when it glides across a smooth surface when it is grimy. If you're coming over from a PC, it may take you time to get used to the fact that the mouse only has one button and no scroll-wheel, but you could also buy a new mouse if you didn't get used to it. The keyboard, as well as controlling the cd drive, also controls volume, which is very handy.

Monitor
The 17" monitor is a true flat screen and provides as good an image as i have seen on any monitor. I have it set at 1152 x 864, which provides a nice screen size at a very comfortable 80-mhz refresh rate. The whole -monitor / computer section of the eMac , despite being 17" takes up very little space on a desktop, more like having a 15" monitor or something similar. I have not seen any reason the get the (overpriced) swivel and tilt stand that you may have seen, as on a normal desk, the setup of the monitor is fine at the level that it is at.

Speakers
This is perhaps the downside of the package. Whilst they are clear in terms of sound quality (though a little shy on bass) they do cause problems at high volumes. Certain MP3s cause the sound to distort, and when it does so, the screen gives off slight ripples (only slight) though these are not terrible noticeable and it only affects the area above the speakers (darker colours emphasize the effect). I am not going to get new speakers, happy with playing mp3s at a medium volume (more than enough), but if you plan on using the emac as your default music player, consider new speakers.

Performance
The 1ghz G4 is of ample speed. It sound low, but seems to run quicker than Pentium chips in the 2ghz range. OSX never slows down, even after playing demanding games (you would often have to restart your computer after playing games in Windows). I upgraded the 128mb of Ram (painfully low) to 640mb, as whilst the actual operating system ran ok with the stock memory, running multiple applications would slow it down (though it is surprising that OSX runs with so little RAM). With the extra RAM, the computer flies, and i have never experienced slowdown (though i only use the web, word processing and games) The graphics card (a 32mb ATI card) is ok with most games (Age of Mythology works very well) but newer games (Unreal Tournament 2004) don't really work , but we are talking about games that have barely been released. I was satisfied with this, as I don't play many games, but this is not a gamer's machine. Not being able to upgrade the graphics card may cause some concerns.

Software

I'm not going to go into this in too much detail, as this is a review of the hardware. What i will say is that, as a switcher, OSX is excellent. As well as being great looking, the layout of folders and processes such as uninstalling programs are so much better thought out on the Mac. All Macs come with all the software most users would want, offering great mail / internet / media programs as standard. The word processor is the only thing that annoys me. Appleworks is not in Microsoft Office's league, but is fine for most users. One thing i will say, however, is that the viewing size of the text is often too small, and the program fits awkwardly onto the desktop. It can do footnotes, justified text etc, so it is fine for essays, though. Using OSX is a pleasure, where as using windows always seemed like a chore. Put simply, the Mac makes computing seems friendly and easy to use, which it is.

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