Bartók: The Miraculous Mandarin; Concerto for Orchestra
On this CD:
1. The Miraculous Mandarin, pantomime in 1 act Op. 19, Sz. 73, BB 82
Composed by Bela Bartok
Performed by Melbourne Symphony Orchestra
Conducted by Hiroyuki Iwaki
2. Concerto for Orchestra, for orchestra, Sz. 116, BB 127
Composed by Bela Bartok
Performed by Melbourne Symphony Orchestra
Conducted by Hiroyuki Iwaki
Bartók: The Miraculous Mandarin; Concerto for Orchestra, Music, Bela Bartok, Hiroyuki Iwaki, Melbourne Symphony Orchestra, 20th/21st Century Ballet, Classical, Classical Composers, Classical Music, Concerto, Concerto for Orchestra, Orchestral, Orchestral & Symphonic
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- Magnificent Mandarin!
- Good SACD, could have been better
- Splendid on SACD!!
- Where have all the channels gone?
- Where have all the channels gone?
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Bartók: Concerto for Orchestra; The Miraculous Mandarin [SACD]
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ASIN: B00006B1NE
Release Date: 2002-07-30 |
Customer Reviews:
Magnificent Mandarin!.......2005-10-25
With The Miracolous Mandarin Bartók sought an approach to the symphonic genre although he did not want to recognize. Maybe because the Symphony as musical device was not precisely living its major glory. These transient times announced dark clouds in the imminent future. The nationalism fever, that fed the destiny of so many people was collapsing, acquiring now a new face and arousing the ancient and hidden social resentments specially on the East World: China and Russia.
In this sense Bartók worked out as true shaman. It does not sound exaggerate to state it. Bartok was an illustrated man and his rough dissonances are not entirely a product of his febrile imagination. He knew and felt as many others artists, something terrible was in the verge of the social environment.
Boulez 's performance revives with magnificent lucidity this ferocious sense of obscure moods and sinister horizons. His commitment level about Bartok deserves him to be named adjoined to Ferenc Fricsay, Antal Dorati, Frtz Reiner with an additional acknowledgment; those works were played three decades after the WW2. Nevertheless, Boulez, having born in 1925 was exceptional witness of the horror and the anguish of those times and with accurate expression sense knew to express it with superb eloquence.
That 's why you must acquire this set. Simply out of context. Boulez was mesmerized and that vision can be felt since the first bar. One of the most remarkable recordings of his career. It 's useless to talk the splendor of the new York Philharmonic playing these works; absolutely incandescent.
In what Concerto for Orchestra concerns, forget about it: there are majuscule versions: Reiner-Pittsburgh is to me, the most splendid and perfect achievement ever recorded; Dorati London and Fricsay Rias are just enough to fill your entire collection in this sense. Boluez does not reach the level in this score, that' s why I can not give it five stars.
Absolutely recommended.
Good SACD, could have been better.......2005-01-29
I must admit that I really bought this for the Miraculous Mandarin which is one of my favourite pieces. The best recording of the Suite is Georg Solti's on Decca, which comes achieves the visceral quality that this music really needs. But I wanted a good recording of the complete ballet, preferably on SACD, so this recording seemed a good bet. The reviews on Amazon.com were good, and I thought Boulez would be a good interpreter of this music, so I took a chance on it.
The Miracuolous Mandarin is wonderful, visceral, hard-hitting, strident music, somewhat in the vein of the Rite of Spring. The rushing street scene at the beginning with it's scurrying violins playing augmented octaves and chattering woodwind playing tritones should sweep you up and unsettle you from the first. And the entrance of the Mandarin, blasted out on trombones and horns, again playing the tritone figure, should pin you to the settee. Late on in the piece, the entrance of the wordless choir as the Mandarin, hung by the theives from a light fitting, starts to glow, should be utterly unearthly and prickle the hairs on the back of you neck. Unfortunately, whilst this music is beautifully played here, it remains a tad too polite, and never sweeps you along as it should. Solti, perhaps because of his firey Hungarian temprement acheives the right feel, but unfortunately the Suite finishes halfway through the piece, so some of the best music is excluded.
The concerto orchestra for which most people will buy this disc is better, it is easier music after all. The same beautiful playing is evident, with Boulez's usual precision being very evident. But for this reason it is also a little too polite.
The Concerto was a quadrophonic recording originally, so this should have been made for high-res surround sound. Unfortunately, as with too many other SACD and DVD-A recordings of classical music, the suround mix is a bit shy of using the rear channels. So rather than being immersed in the music, you feel like you're listening to a stereo recording with a bit af rustling from behind your head. I'm an orchestral musician and like to feel in the middle of the mix; I wish producers were a bit more adventurous in using the surround channels. This business ofusing the rear channels for ambient effects is frustrating and ineffectual. I found myself listening to the Stereo layer through the Pro-Logic II music setting on my receiver in order to try and acheive a more "wrap-around" sound.
Splendid on SACD!!.......2003-12-05
Don't be distracted by Mr. "Where are the Channels"...they are all there! This SACD has been very tastefully mixed for 5.1 surround. Subtle use of the rear speaks gives a sense of sitting in the concert hall with only the reverb gently splashing off the rear hall walls. How else should it sound? The orchestra would be in front, right? Nice spread of sound using center channel as well and of course, the performance is outstanding. Very jaw-dropping in terms of when this recording was made too. Hats off again to Sony!
Where have all the channels gone?.......2002-09-10
OK, let me make one thing clear -- if it weren't for the botched mixdown/transfer of this I would have given it 5 stars. The performance is stellar -- definitive. The problem is how the original intent of this recording became perverted.
This was released in the early 70s as a quadraphonic product, either as SQ encoded LP or discrete four channel 8 track (ok this was not the best thing for Columbia to have done, they should have used discrete reel to reel in those days)
Despite the generally atrocious sound quality of the 8 track... the spatial effect of this true surround (surrounded by the orchestra) sound comes through and literally adds a dimension most concertgoers or home listeners can't experience otherwise.
When I heard of SACD multichannel capabilities I was so in hopes that the great quad recordings of the 70s would be resurrected with the digital sound clarity of today. When I saw that this particular recording had been reissued in this format, I thought I had found the Holy Grail!
Imagine my disappointment when I put on the SACD and immediately realized that I was hearing a mostly stereo, "flat" version of what had been glorious four channel sound!! Yes, they remixed this so that it uses the middle speaker (just useless for this sort of thing, IMHO) and what little signal (could barely be heard) there was to the rear speakers was a vague attempt at supplying hall acoustics, possibly added on artificially.
Why must engineers screw with perfection?? I hate the sort of faddish approach to music reproduction that we seem to blindly follow. Automatically, they try to make this fit today's home theater market, which, if I had to guess, consists of a lot of people who do manage to hook up the middle speaker, but find running wires to the back of the room for the surround to be troublesome and so don't bother with it. What Sony should realize though, is that just about anyone with SACD is going to be more serious about their multichannel sound and will likely have good back (side) speaker placement
I so hope Sony will realize their mistake and redo this or at least make it available in the original form to those of us who want the old four channel sound reproduced!
Where have all the channels gone?.......2002-09-10
OK, let me make one thing clear -- if it weren't for the botched mixdown/transfer of this I would have given it 5 stars. The performance is stellar -- definitive. The problem is how the original intent of this recording became perverted.
This was released in the early 70s as a quadraphonic product, either as SQ encoded LP or discrete four channel 8 track (ok this was not the best thing for Columbia to have done, they should have used discrete reel to reel in those days)
Despite the generally atrocious sound quality of the 8 track... the spatial effect of this true surround (surrounded by the orchestra) sound comes through and literally adds a dimension most concertgoers or home listeners can't experience otherwise.
When I heard of SACD multichannel capabilities I was so in hopes that the great quad recordings of the 70s would be resurrected with the digital sound clarity of today. When I saw that this particular recording had been reissued in this format, I thought I had found the Holy Grail!
Imagine my disappointment when I put on the SACD and immediately realized that I was hearing a mostly stereo, "flat" version of what had been glorious four channel sound!! Yes, they remixed this so that it uses the middle speaker (just useless for this sort of thing, IMHO) and what little signal (could barely be heard) there was to the rear speakers was a vague attempt at supplying hall acoustics, possibly added on artificially.
Why must engineers screw with perfection?? I hate the sort of faddish approach to music reproduction that we seem to blindly follow. Automatically, they try to make this fit today's home theater market, which, if I had to guess, consists of a lot of people who do manage to hook up the middle speaker, but find running wires to the back of the room for the surround to be troublesome and so don't bother with it. What Sony should realize though, is that just about anyone with SACD is going to be more serious about their multichannel sound and will likely have good back (side) speaker placement
I so hope Sony will realize their mistake and redo this or at least make it available in the original form to those of us who want the old four channel sound reproduced!
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Bartók: The Miraculous Mandarin/Concerto For Orchestra
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- The Miraculous Mandarin, Op.19 (Sz73): Allegro - Saint Louis SO/Leonard Slatkin
- The Miraculous Mandarin, Op.19 (Sz73): First Decoy Game - Saint Louis Sym Chor/Thomas Peck
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- The Miraculous Mandarin, Op.19 (Sz73): General Consternation-'The Tramps Make Signs From Their... - Saint Louis Sym Chor/Thomas Peck
- The Miraculous Mandarin, Op.19 (Sz73): 'At Last She Overcomes Her Reluctance And Begins A... - Saint Louis Sym Chor/Thomas Peck
- The Miraculous Mandarin, Op.19 (Sz73): A Tempo (Meno Mosso) - Saint Louis SO/Leonard Slatkin
- The Miraculous Mandarin, Op.19 (Sz73): 'The Girl Sinks To Embrace Him; He Begins To Tremble In... - Saint Louis Sym Chor/Thomas Peck
- The Miraculous Mandarin, Op.19 (Sz73): 'The Tramps Leap Out, Seize The Mandarin And Tear Him... - Saint Louis Sym Chor/Thomas Peck
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- Con For Orch: Intro: Andante Non Troppo; Allegro Vivace - Saint Louis SO/Leonard Slatkin
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The Miraculous Mandarin features what has to be the most exciting chase scene in all of music. Although describing a terrified woman pursued by a lust-crazed Chinese man, the music sounds more like a science fiction/horror extravaganza in which the heroine gets chased by a hoard of demonic alien creatures. Perhaps that's Bartók's point. Leonard Slatkin conducts this terrifying scene--and the whole score--with uninhibited ferocity. It's intensely exciting, and with a very fine Concerto for Orchestra making a generous coupling, that means two major works on one disc. A good deal for great music, but don't listen to the Mandarin in the dark! --David Hurwitz
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Good Cd.......2001-07-07
This CD has two great pieces by Bela Bartok. The performance of The Miraculous Mandarin is exhilarating, while the Concerto is well done. Slatkin leads the St. Louis orchestra into these very dark pieces.
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Bartók: The Miraculous Mandarin; Hungarian Sketches: Suite No. 1
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Bartok--Young and Old .......2007-03-31
This disc brilliantly contrasts the mature, maverick Bartok with the younger, more traditional (but no less inspired) composer. Surprisingly, the earlier works hold up quite well, and still bear Bartok's distinct stamp and color--which is certainly not the case for many great composers (Stravinsky's early symphony, for example). Dorati is among the greatest interpreters of Bartok's music, and his version of the Mandarin is astounding, as expected. Full of fire, atmosphere, and passages of eerie beauty. His Music for Percussion and Strings is also amazing, though I actually prefer his version on Mercury with the London SO (coupled with his rare ballet, The Wooden Prince--better sound, too). But this is a small quibble, and the performance is spirited and inspired.
But I feel I really have to pitch the two largely unknown early works, the Rhapsody for Piano & Orch., Op.1 and the Suite No.1 for Orchestra, Op.3. The Rhapsody is a pungent, virtuostic piece, somewhat similar to Strauss' early Burleske, though with a more Hungarian lilt to it. It also complements his Violin Rhapsodies, though this piece is more squarely in the tradition of Liszt, Dohnanyi, and Kodaly. Why this is not more performed I will never know--it would be a sure crowd pleaser (particularly for those who are unfamiliar and unenthusiastic about his idiom).
However, my favorite piece of all is the remarkably inventive Suite, which overflows with Romantic Nationalism in a vein that skirts Dvorak and the Russians, though sounds nothing at all like them. The first movement opens up with a Straussian march, heroic, even a bit pompous, though orchestrated with glitter and fireworks. The second movement is all grim, Hungarian atmosphere, and indeed, the ominous drumbeat with muffled trumpets is quoted in the Concerto for Orchestra so many years later (or so I believe, maybe he didn't mean it?). Indeed, this piece is itself a kind of Concerto for Orchestra, as the orchestra is kept very busy embellishing his folk-like melodies. A dashing scherzo follows, and then a haunting slow movement which again sounds very nationalistic, a kind of piece Bartok would never write again. Even less Bartokian is the festive finale, which sounds a lot like Smetana--though it's completely captivating in its own, derivative way. In short, the Suite is a work of genius, if a slightly immature one; but that doesn't stop me from listening to it over and over again. Sadly, I don't have a recording of his Second Orchestral Suite...is there a Dorati version floating around somewhere?
The disc concludes with the most haunting, atmospheric, intense account of the oft-recorded Two Pictures, Op.10 I have ever heard. The sheer longing of the opening melody is almost unbearable. I also love how Dorati brings out the Debussyian sheen of the orchestra in this piece. We hear Bartok's distinct voice for the first time in the second "picture," which smacks of the sardonic humor of the Mandarin.
A wonderful, bargain of a disc that should not be missed, no matter how many Mandarins you have in your collection.
Astounding performances and rich in its selections.......2006-04-17
There is no doubt that from start to finish, on both CD's
(there are 2) every performance is extremely strong
and the audio is incredible.
The weak spot, of this release, however, is the lack
of continuity between the numbers, considering that
some of them are very differnet from each other,
such as from one composition to the next, there is
a noticeable change in mood, and musical point of view,
which distracts from the enjoyment experience.
As such, my pick on this set is unquestionable the
"Miraculous Mandarin" which is incredible in the skill
shown by the musicians and by the man leading the group
in playing and showing a cohesive musical message.
The loudness of "Miraculous Mandarin" slams the listener
like a hurricane that's never been felt before....which
is an experience that most music fans will have difficulty
achieving anywhere else.
The other pieces, on their own, are simply perfect and
gems that only the composer's, the genius Bela Bartok,
could have crafted.
Astonishing value!.......2006-03-09
If I wanted to represent Bartok in my classical CD collection with multiple popular works, this would be my CD of choice. A two-CD set, these well-known Bartok compositions are perfectly rendered. Add to that fact that the engineering/sound is just great and there you have it.
I'll let you do your own researching about the composer and his respective works but I will say that there's not a bad cut on either CD of this set. There is a mixing of three different orchestras and conductors on this recording but they all mesh right in, all superb.
What more can I say? It's an awesome set -- buy it!
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- Which of Solti's Bartok collections is best?
- Superbly idiomatic
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Bartok: Concerto for Orchestra, Dance Suite
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Release Date: 2001-04-10 |
Tracks:
- Concerto For Orchestra: I. Introduzione
- Concerto For Orchestra: II. Giuoco delle coppie
- Concerto For Orchestra: III. Elegia
- Concerto For Orchestra: IV. Intermezzo interrotto
- Concerto For Orchestra: V. Finale
- Dance Suite: I. Moderato
- Dance Suite: II. Allegro molto
- Dance Suite: III. Allegro vivace
- Dance Suite: IV. Molto tranquillo
- Dance Suite: V. Comodo
- Dance Suite: VI. Finale
- The Miraculous Mandarin - Suite, Op. 19
Customer Reviews:
Which of Solti's Bartok collections is best?.......2007-04-27
This remastered analog collection from London features two works that Solti recorded decades later in digital sound in Chicago, the Bartok Concerto for Orchestra and the Dance Suite. Both CDs contain a third work, the Music for Strings, Percussion and Celestra from Chicago and the Miraculous Mandarin Suite from London. Since these are all acclaimed recordings and Solti's Bartok was one of his strongest composers, I thought a side-by-side listen would be helpful.
Sound: Decca set out to produce sonic spectaculars in both cases, and in both cases succeeded. The earlier analog sound from London is miked closer and is free of digital edginess. The new remastering of the Chicago recordings has successfully removed the sting form the original CD issue, and though the CSO sits farther back, the sound has great visceral impact. Let's give a slight edge to Chicago.
Execution: You might assume, especially after reading the reviews at Amazon, that the CSO plays so spectacularly that there is no comparison with the London Sym. But Solti was both a powerhouse and a technician. I can't hear that much difference, except that the LSO's wonderful precision of attack isn't quite the super-precision of the CSO, especially in the violins. On the other hand, the LSO soloists play with more personalaity. Call it a draw.
Interprettion: Solti's Bartok was always fast, fierce, precise, and a tad clinical. Not for him the looser phrasing and warmer tone of Ivan Fischer. Having set his interpretation in place, Solti didn't change his timing or phrasing except by indignificant degrees. These two Concertos for Orchestra have an identical approach. However, the Dance Suite form London is hair-raisingly exciting, which isn't true of the Chicago version. And the Miraculous Mandarin Suite from London is even more thrillingly brutal; Solti gives this music the shock treatment, to great effect. By comparison, his MFSP&C from chicago is decidely lackluster.
In the end, it's the couplings that sell me on the London collection. For sheer excitment, Solti's earlier Dance Suite and Miraculous Mandarin qualify as two of his best recordings. As for the main attraction, both versions of the Concerto for Orchestra come out essentially equal.
Superbly idiomatic.......2007-02-19
Many experts of Bartok's music had recorded this work, e.g. Reiner but Solti is at least their equal. One feels completely inside the music and the recording is still very good. Strongly recommended. There is no other version which I prefer to this one.
CONCERTO, SYMPHONY, SUITE.......2005-07-08
Bartok had a dry and ironic sense of humour, and I suspect he was teasing us a bit when he talked about the Concerto for Orchestra as being `symphony-like' with allegedly `concertante' treatment of the instruments in the band. He could have said the same about the treatment of the instruments in the Dance Suite, and I could say much the same about the orchestration in the symphonies of, say, Prokofiev. It's not the way Sibelius for one writes for orchestra, but to me it seems just the natural outcome of the increasing virtuosity of orchestral players in the 20th century. Nor does the work seem symphonic to me in the least. Several of the movements would be of symphonic length in Sibelius if not in Shostakovich or Mahler, but the Concerto for Orchestra really seems a rather ambitious orchestral suite to me. The movements have a looser relationship among themselves than I associate with symphonies, and despite the seriousness of the tone at many points the material is not `worked' in what I would think of as a symphonic way either. If Bartok had called it a suite, I doubt that any of us would be worrying much about its classification as a symphony or as a concerto.
Solti's account has enjoyed the status of a classic for many years now, a status I'm more than happy to endorse. The tempi are admirable, and the LSO is on its best form. The recorded quality does not have quite the vividness of some modern versions, notably that by Ivan Fischer, and I felt this particularly in the Elegy movement, but such comparisons are only between very good and even better and they would not particularly sway my own choice. In any case I still feel to this day that Solti handles one of my own favourite moments, the `raspberry' blown by the trombones (very deservedly in my opinion) at the theme from the Shostakovich 7th in the Intermezzo Interrotto, probably better than anyone else.
This is a thoroughly recommendable version still, I'm quite convinced. If cost is a factor in anyone's decision it has that in its favour for one thing. Choice of coupling could well be important too. Solti offers the Dance Suite, 20 years earlier in date of composition than the Concerto, and it is likely to be a popular choice, especially as the level of brightness in the recording is toned up a little. Fischer has the 3 Village Scenes plus what would tip the balance for me, the early symphonic poem Kossuth. I'm not you, so I can't be more categorical. If money and time are no object I would recommend obtaining both versions. If it has to be one version and one only, either spin a coin or decide on the basis of price or coupling.
Absolutely Spectacular!.......2001-04-26
Perfect, perfect, perfect. A perfect idiomatic reading from a brash and enthusiastic younger Solti. The London strings are just as scratchy as you'd want them in Concerto for Orchestra, perfectly flattened in the finale. The tempi, the balance, the color, all exactly what a long-time admirer of the music would want. Easily an equal of the Reiner or Boulez readings. Dance Suite here is a rollicking good time, sort of the Eastern European version of Rodeo. And a pretty darn good Mandarin Suite thrown in as bonus.
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Release Date: 1995-07-18 |
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Good, but not the best methods for bass trombonists.......2007-07-05
After listening to the excerpts, I recognized Jeffrey Reynolds' perspective. He is an experienced player, but some of his advice is not as practical as it seems. For the Franck excerpt, common orchestral practice is to play the f-sharp as written: it is an applicable range study and should be kept intact. The Schumann excerpt is not played as written also, and should be taken literally in the context that it was written. Mr. Reynolds' approach to Wagner is interesting, especially to Die Walkure. It's not for everyone, but it may be beneficial to some. The Kodaly is well presented, as well as the Mahler, Berg, and Strauss excerpts. All things considered, it is a decent aide for study, but should not be seen as a "this is how it must be done" collection of excerpts.
Mulcahy Rocks, Reynolds is Hilarious!.......2006-10-26
Okay, for anyone seriously interested in what NOT to do in an audition, make sure to listen to Reynolds on this disc. There's a reason this CD is infamous, and he's the reason. Even his advice is pretty awful. Take part of the D Major down an octave because the commitee won't notice? Hah! That kills me every time.
Mulcahy rocks on this, though. Just listen to the VAlhalla theme and tell me he's not a monster.
Then, go back and listen to Reynolds play Ein Heldenleben with 'oblique intonation' and 'questionable sound' and roll on the floor for a while.
Very Helpful.......2006-05-27
This CD was very helpful for me, a student bass trombonist. The CD enables you to not only hear the exerpt, but also listen to what the performer says about it and how it should be played. Mr. Reynolds, as well as Mr. Mulcahy played the exerpts beautifully.
A perfecrt resource...almost!.......2000-08-02
The Orchestra Pro series are a very useful tool to student musicians trying to get a grasp on how the major symphonic excerpts should be played. More useful, however is the spoken commentary, which resembles a one on one lesson with the performer. The bass trumpet and tenor tuba excerpts are played beautifully by Mulcahy. The bass trombone playing or Reynolds often leaves the listener wondering if he could not have done a slightly better job on some of the excerpts. All in all this CD is a great resource for those trying to get their foot in the door of the orchestral music scene.
Tracks:
- The Miraculous Mandarin, Op.19: Intro
- The Miraculous Mandarin, Op.19: Curtain Raises: First Tramp Goes Through His Pockets Looking For...
- The Miraculous Mandarin, Op.19: First Decoy Game
- The Miraculous Mandarin, Op.19: The Shabby Old Rake Enters...
- The Miraculous Mandarin, Op.19: Second Decoy Game
- The Miraculous Mandarin, Op.19: The Shy Young Man Appears
- The Miraculous Mandarin, Op.19: Third Decoy Game
- The Miraculous Mandarin, Op.19: The Mandarin Enters
- The Miraculous Mandarin, Op.19: THe Girl Sinks Down To Embrace Him
- Deux Images, Op.10: In Full Flower
- Deux Images, Op.10: Village Dance
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- Con: Presentando Le Coppie: Allegro Scherzando
- Con: Elegia: Andante, Non Troppo
- Con: Intermezzo Interrotto: Allegretto
- Con: Finale: Pesante - Presto
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Dorati's MLP Bartok is Back.......2005-06-08
Those familiar with my reviews on Amazon know of my great love for the Mercury Living Presence series. Equally great is my disgust that so many of these brilliant recordings have been deleted in the last few years! Thankfully, some of these legendary performances are resurfacing as SACD hybrids. However, they are unfortunately now being sold at full-price, despite a competing Living Stereo hybrid series on RCA/BMG being available at midline. In spite of the added expense, I hope this MLP reissue trend will continue, and maybe we'll even see a few items receiving their CD debut in this series.
These Bartok performances by the great Antal Dorati are nothing short of definitive, and have always been among my favorite MLP offerings. While three of these recordings continue to be available in their original CD incarnations -- the Violin Concerto with Menuhin, Miraculous Mandarin and Wooden Prince discs -- the remaining two discs of material have been out-of-print for some time. However, with this box set Dorati's classic Concerto for Orchestra, and Bluebeard's Castle albums are deservedly restored to the catalog. Even better is the fact that the 5CD box sets being reissued have been reasonably priced, however they are not SACD Hybrids. This set and three others (see my reviews) have a total cost cheaper than the original single issue CDs! Once again, Mercury Living Presence lives!
Music Track:
- Beethoven: Cello Sonatas, Opp. 69 & 102; "Bei Männern" Variations
- Beethoven: Clarinet Trio; Septet
- Beethoven Classic Hits
- Beethoven: String Quartets Op18
- Beethoven: Symphonies Nos. 5 & 6 - Liszt Piano Transcriptions [Import]
- Beethoven: Symphonies Nos. 6 & 7
- Best of Beethoven (Classical Treasures) [Soundtrack]
- Best of British
- Best Of Chopin
- Best of Tchaikovsky
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