Beethoven: Symphonies Nos. 5 & 6 - Liszt Piano Transcriptions [Import]

Track Listings
1. Synfonie No5 - Allegro Con Brio    
2. Andante Con Motto    
3. Allegro    
4. Allegro    
5. Sinfonie No 6 - Erwachen Heiterer Empfindungen Bei Der Ankunft Auf Dem Lande    

Beethoven: Symphonies Nos. 5 & 6 - Liszt Piano Transcriptions, Music, Glenn Gould, Ludwig Van Beethoven, Classical
Beethoven: Symphonien Nos. 5 & 7 / Kleiber, Vienna Philharmonic Orchestra
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  • Simply revelatory
  • An ultimate Beethoven interpretion of Sym 5 and Sym 7
  • Father Knows Best
  • Only the first movement.
Beethoven: Symphonien Nos. 5 & 7 / Kleiber, Vienna Philharmonic Orchestra

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ASIN: B000001GPX
Release Date: 1996-01-23

Tracks:

  1. Symphony No. 5 In C Minor, Op. 67: 1 - Allegro con brio
  2. Symphonie No. 5 In C Minor, Op. 67: 2 - Andante con moto
  3. Symphonie No. 5 In C Minor, Op. 67: 3 - Allegro
  4. Symphonie No. 5 In C Minor, Op. 67: 4 - Allegro
  5. SYMPHONIE NO. 7 IN A MAJOR, OP. 92: 1 - Poco sostenuto - vivace
  6. SYMPHONIE NO. 7 IN A MAJOR, OP. 92: 2 - Allegretto
  7. SYMPHONIE NO. 7 IN A MAJOR, OP. 92: 3 - Presto
  8. SYMPHONIE NO. 7 IN A MAJOR, OP. 92: 4 - Allegro con brio

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Long regarded as the quintessential interpretation of the most popular and best-loved symphony ever written, this performance of the Fifth has everything: passion, precision, drama, lyric beauty, and a coiled fury in the first movement that sets your pulse racing from the very first note. Carlos Kleiber has made very few recordings in his distinguished career, but almost all are special. If you own no other copy of this symphony, this is the one to get. It comes with an exceptional performance of the Seventh--not quite as gripping as the Fifth, but definitely one of the great ones. There is classical music, and there are classic recordings of classical music. This one's a classic. -- David Hurwitz

Customer Reviews:

5 out of 5 stars a legendary recording.......2007-03-06

"For all Kleiber's notable work, there will be a lingering regret that such a natural and brilliant talent did not achieve even more." - The Guardian

Even Beethoven legends like Karajan could not emulate Kleiber's success with these 2 symphonies. The 5th Symphony, as commercially overplayed as it is, becomes something completely different under his baton; the final movement is especially dramatic, rivaling the energy of an actual live recording. The 7th Symphony is not so superior - other conductors have come closer to this benchmark - but the 2nd movement (again overplayed) is truly something special. The recording, made over 30 years ago, sounds just as good as anything made today.

With 100+ recordings, my review seems somewhat superfluous, as well :)

5 out of 5 stars Simply revelatory.......2007-02-12

To be able to generate such passion and electricity especially in the studio seems exactly what Beethovan wanted the music at the time. To me this version puts all other versions out of court.

5 out of 5 stars An ultimate Beethoven interpretion of Sym 5 and Sym 7.......2007-02-06

Carlos Kleiber who was relatively unknown until fairly recently, has created a masterpiece. In effect he has been rediscovered. His father was no mean figure in classical music during WWII in South America and the son seems to have inherited a great deal of inspirational genius from Dad. The Viena Philharmonic is playing in its best form. This recording will outlive most others for musical excellence, precision, feeling and soul. Technically and musically, this is by far the most thrilling recording of our time. The technical sound is flawless, the inspiration is impeccable.The recording of both symphonies sustains the level of awe and excitement not usually found on most recordings of Beethoven. Oh, dear, would that Carlos had recorded the Missa Solemnis and other iconic monuments by Beethoven.

5 out of 5 stars Father Knows Best.......2007-01-20

It is comforting that occasionally a performance of a piece from the basic repertoire transcends the clamor of our feverish opinions and ascends to its singular place in the pantheon on wings of almost universal approval. Carlos Kleiber's incisive reading of Beethoven's C-Minor symphony
produced a singular recording that seemed to set a new standard of excellence. It is a clinic on conducting: propulsive, seamless, trance-inducing. But for this listener, Carlos Kleiber's always-interesting dynamism and fierce attention to detail does not eclipse his father's earlier performance with the Concertgebouw, available on both CD and an excellent vinyl recording. Erich Kleiber's band, excellent in its time, sounds a little scruffy compared to the VPO. There are a few intonation problems here and there. But the performance amounts to an excavation and reinvention of Beethoven's spirit. The finale achieves a white-hot redemptive power that must have exhausted and liberated the musicians at the same time. They play as one, invincibly sprinting on the high wire. Carlos Kleiber had his father's cunning instrumental sense, his steely discipline, and probably excelled him in his ability to maintain orchestral balances. But his father was one of the few musicians to have captured the C-Minor's Sisyphean journey in all of its impossible striving. Whenever I listen to Carlos' version of Beethoven's Fifth, I contentedly marvel at his command of his orchestra. Whenever I listen to Erich's version, I am consumed, emptied, replenished, and somehow changed.

4 out of 5 stars Only the first movement........2006-12-12

This is a great recording for track no. 1. Kleiber seems to lose focus after that.. the beautiful melodic counterpoint of the second melody is mushed out. the fugue in the third movement simply sprawls about. I don't see what the hype is all about when you have Wilhelm Furtwangler's wartime fifths. Kleiber's recording can't be compared to these far more superior outings..
Beethoven's Wig, Vol. 2: More Sing-Along Symphonies
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Beethoven's Wig, Vol. 2: More Sing-Along Symphonies

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ASIN: B0001I2C8O
Release Date: 2004-03-16

Tracks:

  1. Stuck In The Saddle Again (Light Cavalry March, Suppe)
  2. Sing Verdi Very Loud (La donna e mobile, from Rigoletto, Verdi)
  3. Its The Same Every Verse (In The Hall of The Mountain King, from Peer Gynt Suite, Grieg)
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  5. Dont Play That Violin (Violin Concerto #2, Paganini)
  6. Schuberts Trout (Trout Quintet, Schubert)
  7. Dvorak The Czechoslovak (Humoresque #7, Dvorak)
  8. A Fan of Chopin (Prelude 7, Op. 28, Chopin)
  9. Please Do Not Tease The Viennese (Blue Danube Waltz, Strauss)
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  11. Wow What a Wedding Cake (Wedding March, from A Midsummer Nights Dream,. Mendelssohn)
  12. Instrumental Performances:
  13. Light Cavalry March, Suppe
  14. La donna e mobile, from Rigoletto, Verdi (with vocals)
  15. In The Hall of The Mountain King, from Peer Gynt Suite, Grieg
  16. Hungarian Dance #5, Brahms
  17. Violin Concerto #2, Paganini
  18. Trout Quintet, Schubert
  19. Humoresque #7, Dvorak
  20. Prelude 7, Op. 28, Chopin
  21. Blue Danube Waltz, Strauss
  22. Spring, from The Four Seasons, Vivaldi

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From a pure-pleasure standpoint, the first Beethoven's Wig was nothing to flip over, and the second disc in the series follows suit. However, that is not to say that this is not a valuable and possibly ingenious record. Those unfamiliar with the premise will quickly get the picture: Producer/writer/lead singer/chief clever guy Richard Perlmutter gathers a bundle of important classical works (Paganini's "Violin Concerto #2," Strauss' "Blue Danube Waltz") and makes up silly, catchy lyrics to lay over them, informing the listener about the piece or its composer. Standing out for their offbeat brilliance this time are "Dvorak the Czechoslovak" ("Humoresque #7," Dvorak) and "Wow What a Wedding Cake" (Wedding March from A Midsummer Night's Dream, Mendelssohn). Few stabs at mixing education with entertainment succeed so well. As a bonus, the second half of the CD repeats the symphonies straight up, presenting a neat opportunity to quiz kids 5-12 on what and who they've just heard. --Tammy La Gorce

Customer Reviews:

5 out of 5 stars Greatest baby gift ever.......2007-03-15

Both of my grandchildren (and their parents and grandparents) are hooked on this CD and all of the silliness and beauty it brings into our lives. We sing to it, dance to it, and find ourselves thinking about it at odd times. Who can't love singing Verdi VERY LOUD? I've now started giving this as a simple baby gift, especially to those with older siblings. They are already equipped with clothing and nursery gear, and Beethoven's Wig invites the whole family to gather round...even if it is just on short car rides.

5 out of 5 stars Great for the whole family.......2007-01-04

My husband, 18 month old daughter and I all love this CD. It's a staple in the car. One caveat- these lyrics will get stuck in your head and I now find myself singing the "words" to these songs when I hear them in a store or commercial! I'm hoping this means my daughter will recognize these songs as she gets older.

5 out of 5 stars More Great Fun.......2006-03-13

Like the first volume, this CD encourages young children to enjoy classical music. The silly lyrics sometimes impart factual information on the composer or the piece. There are 11 sing-along symphonies and then the 11 symphonies are replayed without the lyrics--total of 22 tracks. Booklet with lyrics and trivia is included. All our children (aged 2-12) enjoy this CD, as do we.

5 out of 5 stars One is better but this is still awesome!! Gotta have it!.......2006-01-10

My children loved Beethovens Wig 1. I checked this one out at the library. Then, we decided we had to have this one too.
Yes, one is the best but 2 is still wonderful.
Save yourself the shipping and order both at the same time.
We all thoroughly enjoy it. My 4 yr old can name these classicals when he hears them elsewhere and he can hum these beautiful songs. Much better than kiddie rhymes and Disney jingles. Culture your children the funniest way!!

5 out of 5 stars Absolute joy, and endless fun!.......2005-11-15

The tunes and word stay with you and before you know it, you are signing them along. My two kids (ages 9 and 7) ask me to put the CD on as soon as we get into the car. What a wonderful and fun way to get them to love classical music!
Beethoven Collection: Symphonies Nos. 1-9, Complete Recording (Box Set)
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Beethoven Collection: Symphonies Nos. 1-9, Complete Recording (Box Set)

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ASIN: B000001VVY
Release Date: 1990-10-25

Tracks:

  1. Symphony No. 5 Op. 67 C Minor: Allegro con brio
  2. Symphony No. 5 Op. 67 C Minor: Andante con motto
  3. Symphony No. 5 Op. 67 C Minor: Scherzo - Allegro
  4. Symphony No. 5 Op. 67 C Minor: Finale - Allegro
  5. Symphony No. 4 Op. 60 B Flat Major: Adagio - Allegro vivace
  6. Symphony No. 4 Op. 60 B Flat Major: Adagio
  7. Symphony No. 4 Op. 60 B Flat Major: Menuetto, Allegro vivace Trio: un poco meno allegro
  8. Symphony No. 4 Op. 60 B Flat Major: Allegro ma non troppo

Tracks:

  1. Symphony No. 3 Op. 55 E Flat Major, 'Eroica': Allegro con brio
  2. Symphony No. 3 Op. 55 E Flat Major, 'Eroica': Marcia funebre. Adagio assai
  3. Symphony No. 3 Op. 55 E Flat Major, 'Eroica': Scherzo-Allegro vivace
  4. Symphony No. 3 Op. 55 E Flat Major, 'Eroica': Finale-Allegro molto
  5. Symphony No. 8 Op. 93 F Major: Allegro vivace e con brio
  6. Symphony No. 8 Op. 93 F Major: Allegretto scherzando
  7. Symphony No. 8 Op. 93 F Major: Tempo di menuetto
  8. Symphony No. 8 Op. 93 F Major: Allegro vivace

Tracks:

  1. Symphony No. 6 Op. 68 F Major: Allegro ma non troppo
  2. Symphony No. 6 Op. 68 F Major: Andante molto mosso
  3. Symphony No. 6 Op. 68 F Major: Allegro
  4. Symphony No. 6 Op. 68 F Major: Allegro
  5. Symphony No. 6 Op. 68 F Major: Allegretto
  6. Symphony No. 2 Op. 36 D Major: Adagio molto - Allegro con brio
  7. Symphony No. 2 Op. 36 D Major: Larghetto
  8. Symphony No. 2 Op. 36 D Major: Scherzo Allegro
  9. Symphony No. 2 Op. 36 D Major: Allegro molto

Tracks:

  1. Symphony No. 7 Op. 92 A Major: Poco sostenuto - vivace
  2. Symphony No. 7 Op. 92 A Major: Allegretto
  3. Symphony No. 7 Op. 92 A Major: Presto - Assai meno presto
  4. Symphony No. 7 Op. 92 A Major: Allegro con brio
  5. Symphony No. 1 Op. 21 C Major: Adagio molto - Allegro con brio
  6. Symphony No. 1 Op. 21 C Major: Andante cantabile con moto
  7. Symphony No. 1 Op. 21 C Major: Menuetto (Allegro molto e vivace)
  8. Symphony No. 1 Op. 21 C Major: Finale Adagio - Allegro molto e vivace

Tracks:

  1. Symphony No. 9 Op. 125 In D Minor: Allegro ma non troppo, un poco maestoso - Beethoven
  2. Symphony No. 9 Op. 125 In D Minor: Molto vivace - Beethoven
  3. Symphony No. 9 Op. 125 In D Minor: Adagio molto e cantabile - Beethoven
  4. Symphony No. 9 Op. 125 In D Minor: Presto - Allegro assai - Beethoven

Customer Reviews:

5 out of 5 stars Beethoven Collection.......2007-05-14

I just got this for my brother-in-law as a gift and he loves it!

5 out of 5 stars Amazing!.......2007-01-24

Having Beethoven's Symphonies in one, very affordable, set is heaven! The recordings are clear and crisp. Each symphony is truly a masterpiece from the very soft tones of the woodwinds to the thundering sounds of horns. It is amazing to listen to certain passages of Beethoven and realize the genius and otherworldliness of his talent.

5 out of 5 stars An excellent introduction to beethoven's symphonies........2007-01-11

The sound is excellent, and the musicianship and conducting is excellent.

5 out of 5 stars Beethoven Collection.......2006-07-23

Beethoven is my favorite composer. No matter how upset or tired I am, his music calms me down, just like a big, gentle hug.
But the cheap CDs have poor quality. And the good ones are too expensive for me. When I found this collection, with such a good price on Amazon.com, I couldn't believe it. Shortly after I purchased it, I received it. The quality is great. I am enjoying it. Thank you

Hoda

5 out of 5 stars Top music!.......2006-07-19

Everything else you can get over, but classical music like Beethoven is stuff you just can't get sick of. A whole collection of Beethoven's Symphonies for such a small price, Wow!. Classical music is so relaxing and peaceful that you can't go wrong with spending time chillin out to this pure classic. The symphonies are great but after this you've got to go get the sonata's etc and I guarantee you won't be dissapointed!

Think about it, they don't call it classical for nothing.
Classical Music for People Who Hate Classical Music
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Classical Music for People Who Hate Classical Music

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ASIN: B000003QWH
Release Date: 1994-06-09

Tracks:

  1. Canon In D
  2. 'Brandenburg' Concerto No. 3: Allegro
  3. The Four Seasons - The Winter: Largo And Allegro
  4. Fanfare ('Masterpiece Theatre' Theme)
  5. Camerata Romana: Air For The 'G' String
  6. 'Eine kleine Nachtmusik': Allegro
  7. Piano Concerto No. 21 ('Elvira Madigan' Theme): Andante
  8. Introduction To Symphony No. 5
  9. 'William Tell' Overture: Finale
  10. 'Aida': Triumphal March
  11. On The Beautiful, Blue Danube Waltz
  12. 'The Nutcracker': Waltz Of The Flowers
  13. '1812' Overture: Finale

Tracks:

  1. Sabre Dance
  2. 'Light Cavalry' Overture: Finale
  3. Carmen: The Toreadors
  4. ' Midsummer Night's Dream': Wedding March
  5. Radetzky March
  6. Symphony No. 9, 'Choral': Finale
  7. 'Prince Igor': Polovstian Dance No. 17
  8. Jesu, Joy Of Man's Desiring
  9. Peer Gynt: Solveig's Song
  10. Sleepers, Wake
  11. Water Music: Hornpipe
  12. Symphony No. 9, 'From The New World': Largo
  13. Emperor Waltz
  14. 'Emperor' Quartet: St. Anthony's Chorale
  15. 'The Tales Of Hoffman': Barcarolle
  16. L'Arlesienne: Farandole
  17. 'The Nutcracker': Dance Of The Mirlitons
  18. 'The Nutcracker': Dance Of The Sugar-Plum Fairy
  19. 'Rhapsody In Blue': Highlight
  20. 'Orpheus In The Underworld': Can-Can

Tracks:

  1. Introduction To 'Also sprach Zarathustra'
  2. Symphony No. 4, 'Italian': Saltarello: Presto
  3. Piano Concerto No. 20: Romance
  4. 'The Valkyrie': Ride Of The Valkyries
  5. 'The Four Seasons' - The Spring: Allegro
  6. Toccata and Fugue
  7. Trumpet Voluntary
  8. 'Royal Fireworks Music': la rejouissance: Allegro
  9. 'Moonlight' Sonata: Adagio Sostenuto
  10. London Festival Orchestra: Overture To 'The Barber Of Seville'
  11. Piano Concerto No. 2: Adagio Sostenuto

Tracks:

  1. Carmina Burana: Introduction To 'Carmina Burana'
  2. Peer Gynt: Dawn From 'Peer Gynt'
  3. Lohengrin: Prelude To 'Lohengrin'
  4. 'Lieutenant Kije': Troika From 'Lieutenant Kije'
  5. Adiago For Strings
  6. 'Carmen': Habanera From 'Carmen'
  7. 'Double' Concerto: Allegro From 'Double' Concerto
  8. The Marriage Of Figaro: Overture To 'The Marriage Of Figaro'
  9. (Rondo) Alla Turca
  10. Xerxes: Largo From 'Xerxes'
  11. Symphony No. 5: Allegro vivace From Symphony No. 5
  12. 'Swan Lake': Scene: Enchanted Lake From 'Swan Lake'
  13. Clair De Lune
  14. Bolero

Customer Reviews:

2 out of 5 stars CD set is misnamed.......2007-06-08

They should have titled this "classical music for people who love classical music" because most of the selections are typical classical music. The title suggests it would be lively selections of "light classical" music that is more upbeat, i.e. Sabre Dance, etc. I really don't hate classical music at all and have many classical CDs in my collection but I really wanted to hear more exciting selections. I won't be purchasing any more of this set but if you like traditional classical music these are good one.

1 out of 5 stars Do not Buy.......2007-02-21

I do know it says classical music for people who hate it, but serioulsly you would have better luck never listening to classical music again. The recordings are awfull and do not do justice to any of the composers. Buy something else.

5 out of 5 stars Classical Music for People Who Hate Classical Music.......2007-01-30

We love this set of CD's. I just got a new copy because my kids keeping taking our first copy with them so that they can listen at work or in their bedrooms but then I can never find them.

2 out of 5 stars Seek better versions.......2006-12-09

If you are fairly new to classical purchases then compilation CD's can be useful for deciding what to buy next. Sometimes you only need a small taste of a piece to inspire you to buy a release with the whole performance on. The problem with this compilation however is that most of the versions are poor in performance or recording quality (or both) when compared to the best versions and the fact that the conductors aren't even credited on the track listing made me suspect that this would be the case. One of my favorite classical pieces is Tchaikovsky's 1812 festival overture but if the first CD version I had heard had been the finale excerpt that is on this compilation I may not have gone on to buy the whole thing. Luckily I heard Adrian Leaper's version first and Adrian's version is rather good.
My classical CD buying experience is limited to only a couple of dozen discs but I have found that the Naxos and Deutshe Grammophon releases are fairly safe. Avoid any release which does not name the conductors on the track listing or sleeve notes.

4 out of 5 stars It Is What It Is.......2006-10-27

It's fitting that this page is fraught with the same kind of silly snobbery that turns people off from classical music (and necessitates collections like this) in the first place.

Any criticism of this compilation, which focuses on the quality of the performances or the fact that many tracks are excerpts, misses the point. This is not a collection for people who consider such things, nor does it purport to be. The idea is to package as many ultra-famous classical melodies as possible in one affordable collection and market it to people who have never purchased a classical recording. As such, top-tier performances are likely too expensive to be sold so cheaply and are unnecessary anyway. Those of us who already know and love a piece or two can forgive the compilers the inclusion of sub-par recordings, when we are exposed to so many other beautiful pieces for the first time.

It probably comes as a shock for some to hear that most people are not familiar with these classics. We may hear snippets on TV or movies, but are left with no idea as to the composer or historical context. With that in mind, it is extremely intimidating to begin buying classical. I suppose those among us, who so thoroughly dismissed the very notion of a boxed set like this, would have us begin by buying full albums by reputable interpreters. Surprisingly enough though, the majority of people would consider that a tad cost-prohibitive.

To conclude, this is a STARTER collection. It will either affirm a listener's feelings about classical music or lead to an interest in purchasing better recordings. Ideally, I suppose the interpretations would be better, but, for reasons mentioned above, that just isn't in the cards for a collection of this nature. If you're familiar with 50 different recordings of "The Ring" series, or have season tickets to the New York Philharmonic, then this probably isn't for you. For us cretins with limited foreknowledge of classical music though, it serves as a succinct introduction with little to complain about.
Beethoven: Symphonies Nos. 5 & 7
Average customer rating: 4.5 out of 5 stars
  • Moving
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  • A Debut Recording For the Ages
  • Two Powerful Forces of Nature Soaring Above the Heavens
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Beethoven: Symphonies Nos. 5 & 7

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ASIN: B000G6BJNA
Release Date: 2006-08-08

Tracks:

  1. Allegro Con Brio
  2. Andante Con Moto
  3. Allegro
  4. Allegro
  5. Poco Sostenuto - Vivace
  6. Allegretto
  7. Presto
  8. Allegro Con Brio

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In 2006, the 25-year-old Venezuelan Gustavo Dudamel's star on the international scene is rising fast, with prestigious conducting assignments and this CD of two of Beethoven's most-popular and often-recorded symphonies. It's a bold calling card for a label that has outstanding versions of these symphonies by the likes of von Karajan, Abbado, and Carlos Kleiber, among others. If Dudamel doesn't eclipse those or others atop the mountain of Beethoven symphony recordings, he gives fine performances brimming with vitality and excitement. His youth orchestra sounds as good as many better known ensembles, playing with spontaneity and technical expertise. Dudamel excels in painting vivid orchestral colors and lending rhythmic impetus to the fast movements of both symphonies, surely a prerequisite for conveying the power of the Fifth and the dancing rhythms of the Seventh. But he does tend to exaggerate dynamics, following powerful orchestral outbursts with barely audible solo or section passages. And his slow movements, while decently done, tend to lack flow and energy. Still, an impressive debut, heralding a welcome new face on the international conducting scene. --Dan Davis

Customer Reviews:

5 out of 5 stars Moving.......2007-06-27

Somehow this particular version moved me. Maybe I was not expecting much from it, but it has some undelying force in the music that really touched some fiber in me. And that I think is the signal of a great musical performance.

5 out of 5 stars " A Revelation".......2007-06-17

In these performances of Beethoven symphonies, ones already recorded earlier and frequently by the great orchestras of the world, up and coming conductor Gustavo Dudamel, leading something called the Simon Bolivar Youth Orchestra of Venezuela, nevertheless produces revelations of a sort. As if rubbing the familiar scores clean of the accumulated tarnish of the ordinary, he and his energetic group, largely made up of former street kids, clearly put into fresh and welcome prominence that revolution in sound dynamics Beethoven introduced into music. Whereas soft passages still have a Mozartian delicacy and dance-like grace, forte ones have a thrilling power and majesty new in Western music. The transition from the 3rd to 4th movement of the 5th symphony, where Dudamel produces a wonderful rise in sound from near inaudibility to joyful sonic grandeur, is especially illustrative in this regard.
Though the orchestra here may not be the world's most accomplished, its limitations pale into insignificance before its skill in communicating an obvious love of the music being played. While soft passages receive what can only be described as lingering, almost lover-like caresses, loud and spirited ones convey a ferocious passion and energy which take the breath away. These are performances not to be overlooked.

5 out of 5 stars A Debut Recording For the Ages.......2007-06-02

Does Sir Simon Rattle's comment count for anything about these stupendous performances? He said (of Dudamel and the Simon Bolivar Youth Orchestra of Venezuela) and I quote: "THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING HAPPENING IN CLASSICAL MUSIC ANYWHERE". Make that in music anywhere, period.

5 out of 5 stars Two Powerful Forces of Nature Soaring Above the Heavens.......2007-05-26

What an experience to behold: A beautiful, young powerhouse at the helm of an incredibly amazing orchestra of young people who are product of an equally impressive musical educational system. The other part of the equation that makes this recording even more sublime is that they are interpreting the music of Beethoven - his Symphonies 5 and 7. Gustavo Dudamel, THE MAESTRO OF THE 21ST CENTURY, commands every nuance, note to dance, cry, sing - to provoke and reach to the inner depths of the soul. The Simon Bolivar Youth Orchestra of Venezuela delivers each work with power, sensitivity with its exceptional form of musicianship and expression that leaves one yearning for more!!

Music is a healing potion designed to create joy and move the human spirit. As I listen to this recording, I am deeply reminded of the beauty and grandeur that creativity offers to make life a wonderful place in which to be a part.



5 out of 5 stars The flaming torch of the genius!.......2007-01-20


It' s very difficult for me to talk - as Venezuelan citizen - with meridian objectivity, about the stature and mercurial emotional power Dudamel confers to every score he conducts. He has been born with that ominous inner fire, in order to express with admirable eloquence, the oneness contained in the core of every Opus conducted by him.

The countless testimonials all around the world seem to confirm it. This prodigious and very young master of the baton (26) simply has no limits, so we will really hope and wish from him to lead us for unexplored roads into the enormous musical universe.

Bravo maestro!
Beethoven: Symphonies Nos. 5 & 6 [Hybrid SACD]
Average customer rating: 5 out of 5 stars
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ASIN: B00029CWZU
Release Date: 2004-08-10

Customer Reviews:

5 out of 5 stars Comparing three classic Fifths--Karajan, Kleiber, and Bernstein.......2006-02-07

When Carlos Kleiber released his classic Beethoven Fifth in 1975 with the Vienna Phil., it made his reputation oernight, and the recording itself was greeted as a revelation. At the time I wondered if this was really true, since two older Fifths from the early Sixties, Karajan with the Berlin Phil. and Bernstein with the NY Phil., seemed quite wonderful already. Now I have the latest remastering of each, so I decided to sit down and compare them.

Sonics: The Kleiber recording was never one of DG's best--edgy, a bit thin, lacking in warmth. In its "Originals" reissue things are improved but not drastically so. However, neither Karajan nor Bernstein sounds appreciably better, the main difference being that these conductors asked for heavier weight in the lower part of te orchestra and were given wider stereo by the engineers. There is still some shrillness in the strings at loud volume on all three CDs. I would say that Karajan's latest SACD remastering gives him the edge. The trumpets at the beginning of the finale, for example, sound more exciting and easier on the ear.

Tempos: It's remarkable that all three ocnductors hear the Beethoven Fifth at the same tempo in every movement, within a few seconds of each other. (Karajan times out slower in the finale because he skips the exposition repeat, which Kleiber and Bernstien both take). The single exception is Bernstein's first mvoement, which at 8:30 takes a full minute longer than the other two and sounds stodgy by comparison (heard in isolation it comes off as measured and grand, an older tradition in this movement, except for the ever-fleet Toscanini).

Interpretation: Here is where Kleiber's reputation stands or falls. I think if I played these three recordings blind, the finales would be identical to any listener. Karajan's first movement is more propulsive than Kleiber's--a surprise since Kleiber was praised for finding new energy in this worn-out music. In the second movement, where Kleiber always seemed light and expressive, the other two are, also. The scherzos are more or less identical. Only Bernstein's measured first movement gives away his performance, although with careful listening, it emerges that Karajan's phrasing is a bit on the stiff side, while Kleiber;s orchestra seems a shade more alert and expressive.

In all, these are each performances to live with a long time. To me, it was surprising that Kleiber wasn't as revolutionary as I'd thought three decades ago. If it makes a difference, I once put five versions of the opening movement on a CD to see which was preferred by some friends in a blind listening test. The Kleiber easily won, so maybe there is something special here after all. Second place went to Reiner's great recording from the Fifties on RCA.

5 out of 5 stars Brilliant!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.......2005-08-08

This is as good as it gets. Superb performance and unbelievable sound. The 5th is right up there with the Carlos Kleiber version.
Once again - superb, beyond all expectations.
Beethoven: Symphonies Nos. 1-9 (Box Set)
Average customer rating: 4.5 out of 5 stars
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Manufacturer: Delta
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ASIN: B000001VWY
Release Date: 1995-05-16

Tracks:

  1. Symphony No. 3 In E Flat Major, Op. 55 'Eroica': Allegro Con Brio
  2. Symphony No. 3 In E Flat Major, Op. 55 'Eroica': Marcia Funebre (Adagio Assail)
  3. Symphony No. 3 In E Flat Major, Op. 55 'Eroica': Scherzo (Allegro Vivace)
  4. Symphony No. 3 In E Flat Major, Op. 55 'Eroica': Finale (Allegro Molto)
  5. Symphony No. 1 In C Major, Op. 21: Adagio Molto. Allegro Con Brio
  6. Symphony No. 1 In C Major, Op. 21: Andante cantabile con moto
  7. Symphony No. 1 In C Major, Op. 21: Menuetto (Allegro molto e vivace)
  8. Symphony No. 1 In C Major, Op. 21: Finale (Adagio, Allegro molto e vivace)

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  1. Symphony No. 7 In A Major Op. 92: Pocco sostenuto-vivace
  2. Symphony No. 7 In A Major Op. 92: Allegretto
  3. Symphony No. 7 In A Major Op. 92: Presto-Assai meno presto
  4. Symphony No. 7 In A Major Op. 92: Allegro con brio
  5. Symphony No. 2 In D Major Op. 36: Adagio molto-Allegro con brio
  6. Symphony No. 2 In D Major Op. 36: Larghetto
  7. Symphony No. 2 In D Major Op. 36: Scherzo (Allergro)
  8. Symphony No. 2 In D Major Op. 36: Allegro molto

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  1. Symphony No. 5 In C Minor, Op. 67: Allegro con brio
  2. Symphony No. 5 In C Minor, Op. 67: Andante con moto
  3. Symphony No. 5 In C Minor, Op. 67: Allegro
  4. Symphony No. 5 In C Minor, Op. 67: Allegro
  5. Symphony No. 4 In B Flat Major, Op. 60: Adagio, Allegro vivace
  6. Symphony No. 4 In B Flat Major, Op. 60: Adagio
  7. Symphony No. 4 In B Flat Major, Op. 60: Allegro vivace
  8. Symphony No. 4 In B Flat Major, Op. 60: Allegro ma non troppo

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  1. Symphony No. 6 In F Major, Op. 68 'Pastorale': Awakening Of Happy Feelings On Arriving In The Country - Allegro ma non troppo
  2. Symphony No. 6 In F Major, Op. 68 'Pastorale': By The Brook - Andante molto mosso
  3. Symphony No. 6 In F Major, Op. 68 'Pastorale': Peasant's Merrymaking - Allegro
  4. Symphony No. 6 In F Major, Op. 68 'Pastorale': The Storm - Allegro
  5. Symphony No. 6 In F Major, Op. 68 'Pastorale': Shephard's Song. Happy And Thankful Feelings After The Storm - Allegretto
  6. Symphony No. 8 In F Major Op. 93: Allegro vivace e con brio
  7. Symphony No. 8 In F Major Op. 93: Allegretto scherzando
  8. Symphony No. 8 In F Major Op. 93: Tempo di menuetto
  9. Symphony No. 8 In F Major Op. 93: Allegro vivace

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  1. Symphony No. 9 In D Minor, Op. 125 'Choral': Allegro ma non troppo un poco maestoso
  2. Symphony No. 9 In D Minor, Op. 125 'Choral': Molto vivace
  3. Symphony No. 9 In D Minor, Op. 125 'Choral': Adagio molto e cantabile
  4. Symphony No. 9 In D Minor, Op. 125 'Choral': Presto-Allegro assai

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This is a surprisingly fine Beethoven cycle. Herbert Kegel had a reputation as a modern music specialist, and with good reason: He was a certified East German communist intellectual who killed himself shortly after the Berlin Wall came down--perfect for the wilder excesses of the modern German school. But he also had a very idiomatic feel for Beethoven as these objective, tautly rhythmic, and excitingly played performances prove. At super budget price, this set is worth considering. --David Hurwitz

Customer Reviews:

5 out of 5 stars Great Beethoven Cycle.......2007-06-20

Most of my music is on LP or I have access thru Rhapsody. I picked these cds up as part of the 10 CD Beethoven Platinum Collection. Kegel does the first 5 discs, the same discs as in the boxed set here.

I am a niggardly (it means frugal on steroids) Scandinavian who is always trying to stretch a nickel into a dollar. Yet, every time I pursue this course, a little voice whispers in my ear, "You get what you pay for." The thrill of bargain hunting is finding a great value at a mere pittance. This results in left brain/right brain nirvana. I picked up the 10 CDs for about $10 and they sound great, especially the Beethoven Symphonies and especially the 9th. They are also very well recorded including excellent db master line levels.

The other great thing about bargain hunting is that if the purchase is a dud, you are only out a pittance! Just about the worst feeling is paying a premium and buying crapola. So, if you do buy these discs and you do not like them as I did, hopefully your wallet will not be emptied.

4 out of 5 stars a fine combination of quality and value.......2005-12-29

This is a fine set of Beethoven symphonies, well played and recorded, except I think the recording level of the ninth is a bit lower than the rest of the symphonies (might just be my ears). You don't get fancy liner notes or fabulous photographs of the orchestral forces, but the performances are quite solid; the best being the opening of the fifth and the chorale finale of the ninth.

5 out of 5 stars THIS SET IS AN ABSOLUTE STEAL.......2005-12-20

The performance of Symphony No. 5 in this set absolutely kicks serious butt- it's the most powerful, driven Fifth I've ever heard- worth the price of the whole set alone!!!! The rest of the CD's are excellent as well, but the Fifth in this set reigns supreme!

5 out of 5 stars Excellent.......2005-09-26

This is an excellent series of recordings. The peak of which, of course, comes in the final CD with the 9th Symphony. The instruments are perfectly mixed so that one section doesn't outweigh another. The solosists are superior. The orchestra is crisp and precise. This is one of the best recordings of the nine symphonies out there. And it's a great value.

4 out of 5 stars Pleasing overall..........2004-07-14

Beethoven's Symphonies are very popular among the classical community, and hence there are many versions and sets to choose from. This box set is wonderful for a classical lover who desires to obtain the complete symphonies, but can't afford to spend a hundred dollars in the process. This is by far not the best performance ever recorded by any means, but overall, it stays close to the music and is very traditional. So if you desire to gain a better appreciation for Beethoven's symphonies, but aren't willing or are unable to spend alot of money doing it, this is the perfect box set for you.
Liszt: Piano Transcriptions of Beethoven's Symphonies Nos. 5 & 6 (First Movement)
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Liszt: Piano Transcriptions of Beethoven's Symphonies Nos. 5 & 6 (First Movement)

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ASIN: B0000028NV
Release Date: 1992-10-13

Tracks:

  1. Symphony No. 5 In C Minor, Op. 67: I. Allegro con brio
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  3. Symphony No. 5 In C Minor, Op. 67: III. Allegro
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  5. Symphony No. 6 In F Major, Op. 68: Awakening Of Cheerful Feelings Upon Arrival In The Country: Allegro ma non troppo

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None of Liszt's ingenuous Beethoven symphony transcriptions had been recorded when Glenn Gould charted virgin territory in 1967 with the Fifth. Not only does Gould take Liszt's prodigious technical demands in stride, he also turns in what may be his best Beethoven playing on record. The pianist brings a kind of rhythmic acuity to the outer movements that makes many orchestral versions seem tame in comparison, even those with faster tempos. Gould's genius for sustaining tension at slow tempos is fully revealed in the second movement, in which each phrase is timed to a T. The first movement of the Pastorale flows more assuredly and accurately than in Gould's CBC Radio performance of the entire transcription. It's a pity Gould abandoned his plans to record the entire cycle. --Jed Distler

Customer Reviews:

3 out of 5 stars Non-believers may want to hesitate.......2006-09-11

Arguing against Glenn Gould's eccentric choices of recording material is a guarantee of being scorched here at Amazon, but in all fairness, Beethoven's symphonies lose a great deal in piano transcription. The instrument cannot sustain a true legato, encompass orchestral power, mimic wooodwind and brass colors, etc. What we're left with when you erase all the orchestration is Gould's personal interpretation. I wondered if he would have brillinat or even just strange new ideas about the Fifth. He doesn't. this is basically a straightforward reading of the score, the way a conductor might play it at home to learn the work. For me, one listen was enough, but of course GG fans will strongly disagree.

5 out of 5 stars SKIP THIS ONE, AND GET GOULD'S LISZT'S BEETHOVEN'S SIXTH INSTEAD..........2006-04-14

Gould's Liszt's Beethoven's Fifth is a strange realization. I've been a GG fan--and a Beethoven fan--for over 30 years; still, I can't say I really like this recording. Again, Gould sees the piece as a gestalt--which is a good thing. The first movement he plays like the early Beethoven sonatas. He expands the time scale of the second movement, which is also a good thing. However, in the third movement GG seems a little fussy to me: but I hasten to add that I think this is Liszt's fault: I think Liszt's transcription is quirky. The last movement has those tremolos which Gould termed, "the worst excesses of Aunt Sadie at the upright [!]." One might imagine an old silent film accompaniment with the villan tieing the heroine to the railroad tracks: it's bathos at it's worst: hilarious. But Gould is just following Liszt's score.

Another critic says the first movement of B's Sixth is better than the whole gestalt GG did for CBC: WRONG! Lookit: my whole hearted recommendation is that art lovers obtain the whole recording of GG's B's Sixth instead of this recording. It's listed on Amazon as Glenn Gould Edition: Beethoven/Liszt ASIN: B0000028NW. That is the realization to get.

5 out of 5 stars One of the most pyramidal achievements of Mr Gould!.......2005-03-03

This record is simply a musical treasure. Glenn Gould made a glorious and breathtaking performance of this score, maintaining an expressive lyricism, and idiomatic approach about this hard to play transcription. Gould knew to express the inner tensions and the force of this quintessential Symphony. You won't miss the original version for whole orchestra.

A sublime masterwork which proved again the huge loss that meant for all the world the early vanishing of this giant keyboardist.

In memoriam: 1932-1982.

3 out of 5 stars Does not compare to Cyprien Katsaris.......2004-05-09

I've heard several performances of Beethoven's Symphonies on piano. The performances by Cyprien Katsaris are far superior to Glenn Gould's. Katsaris closely follows the original score by Beethoven, takes the repeats, and plays at the proper tempo consistently. Gould hums, plays too slowly and never takes repeats.

Comparing the 5th Symphony between Gould and Katsaris, it's easy to hear vast differences. Throughout the symphony, Katsaris plays with passion, excitement and tension. He adds notes left out by Liszt (and Gould) and he takes the repeats (often playing them the "ossia"). The symphony is much more entertaining and accurately played by Katsaris. The final movement by Gould is slow and almost boring. While Katsaris performs it quickly and precisely.

Overall Katsaris adds notes for instruments Liszt left out for all 9 Symphonies and is much more accurate than any other performance I've ever heard. I highly recommend Cyprien Katsaris over anyone else for Beethoven's Symphonies.

5 out of 5 stars Beethoven's Fifth for Piano Solo.......2002-01-19

This CD is top-rate. The recording quality is excellent. Some piano recordings can sound distant--not this one. You feel like you're standing next to the piano. Glenn Gould plays Beethoven's Fifth Symphony with flawless virtuosity, and he stays true to the symphony. The piano arrangement by Liszt captures the symphony's message, and you will want to turn up the volume and listen to every note. If you like Beethoven's Fifth and you like solo piano, this CD is a winner. Note that only the first movement of the Sixth Symphony is on this CD.
Beethoven: Symphonies Nos. 1, 2, 4, 5
Average customer rating: 4.5 out of 5 stars
  • Bohm is one of the great Beethoven conductors
  • Lush, dramatic and evocative
  • Beethoven's Symphonies 1,2,3,4,5
  • Overall, just fablulous.
  • Nobody is perfect, but why did it have to be the No. 5?
Beethoven: Symphonies Nos. 1, 2, 4, 5

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Release Date: 1994-11-22

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  1. Symphonie No. 1 en ut majeur, Op. 21: 1. Adagio molto - Allegro con brio
  2. Symphonie No. 1 en ut majeur, Op. 21: 2. Andante cantabile con moto
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  5. Symphonie No. 2 en re majeur, Op. 36: 1. Adagio molto - Allegro con brio
  6. Symphonie No. 2 en re majeur, Op. 36: 2. Larghetto
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  4. Symphonie No.4 en si bemol majeur, Op.60: 4. Allegro ma non troppo
  5. Symphonie No.5 en ut mineur, Op.67: 1. Allegro con brio
  6. Symphonie No.5 en ut mineur, Op.67: 2. Andante con moto
  7. Symphonie No.5 en ut mineur, Op.67: 3. Allegro - attaca
  8. Symphonie No.5 en ut mineur, Op.67: 4. Allegro

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Karl Böhm's Vienna Philharmonic Beethoven cycle is Deutsche Grammophon's best kept secret. Not only is it the finest complete set of Beethoven symphonies in their catalog, it's also far and away the best recorded, and to make matters even more irresistible, it's also the least expensive (it's available on three "twofer" sets). These performances are typical: weighty, intense, powerful, and magnificently played. Listen especially to the (comparatively) neglected Fourth Symphony: if Böhm doesn't convince you that this is major Beethoven, then no one can. --David Hurwitz

Customer Reviews:

5 out of 5 stars Bohm is one of the great Beethoven conductors.......2005-08-16

I have been collecting Karl Bohm's stereo recordings in earnest since 1993, and find his Beethoven among the best there is. This 2 disc set of Beethoven's Symphonies 1,2,4,and 5 should not disappoint anyone, unless they're really into the period instrument mentality of Hogwood, Gardiner, Norrington, Goodman, Weil, et al. The Vienna Philharmonic plays beautifully, and as you would expect, produce a burnished string and wind sound, wonderfully blended, but with clarity of lines where called for. Bohm is no speed demon, but he doesn't drag either: IV of Symphony 2 is slower than many I've heard, but it never drags.

I'm going to stick my neck out here and say that I believe Karl Bohm's Beethoven Symphony recordings from 1969-72 are better than Herbert von Karajan's 3 cycles with the Berlin Philharmonic, although there is no doubt Karajan is more marketed and celebrated by the public even 16 years after his death. Bohm is better interpretively, and has better sound in almost all movements of this symphony cycle. But he doesn't rely on dramatics to make his points: Bohm is solid as granite or the Rock of Gibralter, and you either like his approach or you don't. I do. About Karajan, his weakest cycle is the 1982-85 one, on DG. I would say the 1961-2 cycle is better, and the 1975-77 cycle best of Karajan's work, (both of these are DG also), but put them behind Bohm's cycle.

In addition to Bohm, I would recommend Bruno Walter/Columbia Symphony(Sony Classical,for Symphonies 1 through 8, but not 9); Szell/Cleveland for 1,2,3,4,9 (Sony Classical), Bernstein/Vienna (DG).

In this particular release, I enjoyed all 4 symphonies, and found Symphony 5 to be among the best I've heard, along with Furtwangler (the Vienna Philharmonic recording, released in January 2005 by EMI), and Ormandy (Sony Classical, 2 CD set, with 6,7,and 8.)

5 out of 5 stars Lush, dramatic and evocative.......2002-09-24

I played Symphony No. 1 on the way home from work today, and it was as if I were being transported to a higher plane. No music has ever done that to me.

I haven't listened to much classical music for a long time, but recently I found myself drawn to Beethoven as I had 20 years ago. Upon the first listening, these symphonies drew me in and carried me away. I love Beethoven's complexity, drama and sublety. This music so clearly demonstrates why people for generations have considered Beethoven one of the greatest composers.

In the hands of Karl Bohm and the Vienna Philharmonic, these symphonies express themselves like a flower awakening to the sun.

The sound quality of this recording is exceptional. It is like being in the symphony hall, but more personal.

5 out of 5 stars Beethoven's Symphonies 1,2,3,4,5.......2002-05-19

Typically Beethoven, Symphony #4 lifts you off your chair and sends you away with it's power, and Symphony #5 is also a very strong piece of Music, same for Symphonies 1 and 2. If you love Early Beethoven, and love Classical music that really knocks your socks off then you will love this CD set.

4 out of 5 stars Overall, just fablulous........2001-04-25

So now I,ve heard them all. Nine symphonies on three DG doubles and I'm very happy. Below I wrote about the fifth and it's unfortunate. Now the good points. The playing is great. I have some recordings by George Szell and the Cleveland Orchestra that feature playing so "tight" that it's scary. Sometimes it works(third symphony: thumbs-up), sometimes it doesn't(No. 5). I have Solti's 80's version of Beethoven's seventh and eighth whichs features very accurate playing put a real sense that the musicians are afraid to make a mistake, and it sounds just empty. Other disks I have are just sloppy. But this Bohm cycle sounds like relaxed perfection. It's wonderful: even when the playing is very fast, they are just purring along. I love it! The sound of the recording is another plus. Clear, warm, lively and almost no analog hiss. The Solti above sounds like a concrete gymnasium, Szell like a recording studio, the Muti cycle too crowded, '62 Karajan too old, Walter noisy and like a warehouse, Kleiber dramatic but too dark. But the Bohm sounds like a first-rate concert hall. The music? I could go on and on about the excellence of the interpretations. I get the impression that Bohm has a mind for "the whole piece" that is superior to just about everybody. If I hear a No. 8 that surpasses his, or a more beautiful second movement of the sixth, or a seventh that NAILS the climax better, or a more gleeful 4, or a more complete ninth, my head will explode.

4 out of 5 stars Nobody is perfect, but why did it have to be the No. 5?.......2001-04-16

I love the No. 5. And Bohm's other Beethoven recordings are some of my most valued..anythings. But what the heck happened here? This fifth symphony is not good, and the tempo ain't the half of it. Slower tempos are fine. The problem is something else, like affinity for the music or something. As long as I have my Giulini/LA Phil No. 5(definately buy it!), I'll be fine. On a much happier note, the 4 is great! I've heard a few others and this one far surpasses them.
Beethoven: Symphonies Nos. 5, 6 & 9
Average customer rating: 4.5 out of 5 stars
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  • Impressive remaster
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Beethoven: Symphonies Nos. 5, 6 & 9

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ASIN: B00008CLNP
Release Date: 2003-04-08

Customer Reviews:

4 out of 5 stars Is Karajan's middle Beethoven his best?.......2006-07-20

Although these recordings from 1976 and 1977 have their fans, Karajan's second Beethoven cycle for DG marked a troubling shift. Compared to his acclaimed 1963 cycle, the timings for all three symphonies here are extremely close, sometimes within seconds. Yet the vitality of the earlier performances has been compromised. Karajan no longer digs into the phrasing; we feel that we are kept on the music's surface. The change isn't drastic most of the time, but it's undeniable.

This is particularly true of the Fifth and Sixth Sym., which are gray copies of the earlier performances. Surpisingly, a lot of the dulling effect comes from the sonics. Even as remastered here (a decided improvement over earlier attempts), the sound is murky and muffled. Put on any of the new SACD transfers of the 1963 cycle, and you will scratch your head that the passage of over a decade caused DG to move backward in recorded sound. Strange. (The good news being that the 1963 set sounds splendid in sACD.)

I imagine most listeners will be buying this budget two-fer for the Ninth, which Karajan made over a four-month period beginning in September, 1976, and ending in January, 1977. (I wonder if there's a story here.) Given how many critics cite this as Karajan's best Ninth, I was surprised at how markedly tamer it is than the 1963 Nith. Again we are given the same speeds, but mystery has lessened in the opening bars, and the Adagio in particular flows along without soaring into transcendence.

This leaves us with only the finale, and there's no doubt that the 1963 chorus was not ideal. I decided to do a simple A-B comparison since the Wiener Singverein participates in both versions. It came down to a choice between two minor evils. In the 1963 Ninth the chorous is distant and muzzy; it's impossible to detect a single word of the text. In 1977 both soloists and chorus are given close-up treatment, so the muzziness is gone. There's a notably aggressive bark to many choral entries, however, and much stiffer expression than before.

The 1953 sloists (Janowiwtz, Rossel-Majdan, Waldemar Kmentt, Walter Berry) are superb, but here the race is basically a tie. The 1977 quartet (Tamova-Simtov, Schreier, Baltsa, Van Dam) sing very much in tune for such exposed miking. Schreier, for example, sounds louder than the whole orchestra in his solo, so we can be thankful that he gets through it so smoothly. Pacing is nearly identical with the 1963 finale, but as in the other movements, one feels that Karajan isns't fully committed.

Whatever magic made the 1963 Ninth feel so natural and yet so dramatic, so joyous and tragic, has partially disappeared. One listener, at least, will no longer wonder whether Karajan's middle Beethoven was his best.

5 out of 5 stars Fly with Karajan and the Berliner..........2006-05-26

This is a very listenable and nicely remastered recording, and I highly recommend it. While it may not be particularly impassioned, the virtuosity and technical mastery from all involved more than compensate.

I agree with another reviewer that perhaps Karajan did not really understand the 6th Symphony - this reading is not nearly as focused as many others - but in the capable hands of the Berlin Philharmonic it is still wonderful. The brisk reading of the 5th shines with brilliance, and the 9th is gorgeous.

You can't go wrong: A Beethoven symphony, masterfully executed, always promises an amazing, awe-inspiring experience.

If you happen to be a new listener to Beethoven symphonies, or if you just want one recording that is representative of the astounding range of Beethoven's symphonic compositions, this would be a good introduction. If recording quality is among your top concerns, you'll certainly find much less distraction here than with Furtwangler or other earlier recordings.

That said, the foundation of classical music appreciation is exploration: So as a listener, if you like a particular piece, seek out many different professional recordings of it and lose yourself in it. You will be enlightened by this pursuit.

4 out of 5 stars Some of Karajan's best Beethoven in this 2CD set.......2005-12-17

Karajan is a very, very good Beethoven conductor, but is he great? He doesn't rise to sublime heights like Furtwangler but Karajan beats out most others like Bernstein, Szell, Klemperer, Abbado, Rattle, most Solti and so on. If you can say one word about Karajan's Beethoven, that word would be, " dependable ".

These recordings are from the 70's cycle, here remastered beautifully in 24-bit sound. All 3 works sound much better than their earlier incarnations on the DG Galleria label.

The 5th is very powerful, intense and most pleasing, as good a performance as Carlos Kleiber and Karajan's version has better sound. However this performance doesn't surpass Karajan's earlier 60's version which is even more menacing and deeply felt. The 60's version is available in terrific sound on SACD and in the Complete Beethoven Edition Volume 1. That really is Karajan's best 5th.

This Pastoral is possibly Karajan's best take on a work he didn't understand or did not want to understand. He was always critisized for fast tempos in this glorious music. He's fast here too but not breathless. The scherzo repeat is taken, thankfully. All in all, ok.

The 9th is the real winner here. This 1977 version is just as famous as the 1962, the one from the 80's is not in the running.
Here in the '77 version, Karajan sticks to his old plan, powerful, fast, first movement, vivid, energetic second movement but the adagio is finer than his other records. A gorgeous sound that only the Berlin Philharmonic can produce is summoned here and Von Karajan takes a more expansive tempo. The results are exquisite, not Furtwangler, but close. The finale is not always successful, strange recording techniques here and there, like the instrumental build up of the joy theme which drops in volume for some weird reason, then goes back to a higher volume. The old Galleria CD also had this. The chorus is backwardly balanced like on most other CD's of the Ninth, it's still good though, regardless. Better than any of Bernstein's versions. The most amazing part of this performance is the final coda, Karajan leads everyone, chorus and orchestra, in a huge volcanic eruption, with the timpanist thundering away! Whoah! ( quoting Keanu Reeves ) Certainly, it's the most thrilling end to this famous work I've ever heard. Unbelievable power!

My overall preference is for Solti's magnificient 1972 Ninth with the Chicago Symphony Orchestra, insane power in the first 2 movements, a sublime adagio and it has the best choral finale of them all, the chorus much more powerful for Solti than Karajan. Solti's final coda is just about as intense as Karajan's volcano. Many people have written about that Solti version, check it out!

For a historical account, of course Furtwangler in Berlin 1942 is the one to go for. Truly apocalyptic. You can get that in a set on the Music and Arts label.

So, even if these Karajan performances aren't the best, they destroy most of the competion, like I said, all of Bernstein, Szell, Abbado, not to mention those pesky period instrument conductors, Gardiner, Norrington, Harnoncournt, etc. Karajan beats Solti in everything Beethoven, except that majestic Solti Ninth from 1972.

The 2CD set is very economical. Three symphonies for about the same price as just the 5th and 6th from the Karajan digital cycle.

Whether you like Karajan or not, there's no denying these performances of the 5th and 9th symphonies are in elite company.
Karajan's 5th from the 60's is better than what you're buying here but the 9th symphony here is slightly finer than the earlier 60's version.

P.S. March 2007. Upon further examination I have found that Karajan's recordings from the 1960's of all these symphonies are clearly superior to this offering. The sound is better on the earlier recordings, more natural and vibrant, not as close up as we get here, plus the vigor and intensity of the younger Karajan is hard to resist. If you are going to buy the versions from the 1960's, I suggest you get the remastered Hybrid SACD box set of the whole cycle or the Original Image Bit-Processing box set release as part of the Complete Beethoven Edition. Check my reviews for further analysis of that cycle.

5 out of 5 stars Impressive remaster.......2004-07-17

I have also possessed versions of the 1977 recording of the 9th most recently issued as a mid-priced DG Galleria release. The versions of the 5th and 6th included on this re-issue are definitely worth having but for me the 1977 recording of the 9th is the stand out. Even in its Galleria issue it presented us with arguably one of the most affecting and intense recordings Karajan and the BPO ever committed to disc. There were minor reservations though concerning the finale. These were largely technical concerns over the engineering and placement of microphones. Others have alluded to those concerns but for me they barely detracted from an otherwise remarkable recording. For his part Karajan, still at the height of his formidible powers in 1977, extracted the most pure and passionate reading from his orchestra and his singers. All through the recording one can sense the absolute commitment of everyone involved.

What a revelation it is then to now hear this newly re-mastered version which all but totally cures those minor audio quibbles.

The hairs on the back of my neck literally stand up when I hear the hushed intensity of the Adagio now with even more detail exposed in this remaster. In the hands of the BPO and Karajan it becomes the aural equivalent of a wounded animal ready to pounce. And that finale! The singers (especially Peter Schreier and Jose van Dam), so utterly sure of themselves and now so much better placed and balanced. Truly sublime. The intensity released with the remastering makes this finale every bit as driven as Karajan's earlier BPO recording which has also been deservedly praised. There are so many remarkable recordingsboth old and new being produced these days it is hard to keep up. But I am sure that if the record of human achievement were somehow lost but for this symphony and this recording it would be all the evidence needed of the soaring heights humanity could reach.

5 out of 5 stars Classic Karajan 70s 9th in a spectacular transfer, and more!.......2004-01-11

Herbert von Karajan recorded all of the Beethoven symphonies no fewer than 4 times (once in the 1950s for EMI with the Philharmonia Orchestra, 3 times for DG in the 1960s, 1970s, and 1980s). For a complete cycle, I prefer the 1960s set (which is forthcoming later in 2004 on SACD). But of all of the Ninth's he made, this one takes the cake. It has been around on a Galleria CD since 1986. I've used it for demos many times. I never thought it could be improved upon so much!
I especially like the improved sound of the finale. It sounds like the engineers did some significant rebalancing. Instruments that previously dominated, sounding like a microphone was within a few inches of the instrument, are now more warmly balanced with the rest of the orchestra.
The solists in the finale are certainly no match for those in the 1960s recording, but they are more than adequate.
The 1960s recording almost had a sense of occasion about it, kind of like the great Furtwangler recording made at Bayreuth in the early 1950s. You don't get that here, but you do get a more solidified vision from Karajan.
Get it while you can, though.
Something tells me these won't be around for very long.

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